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Anthny

Anthny — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

it’s is not that much easy as it seems to be. Any person sitting in one of the remotest corners of the world can load it on the internet. this is like putting a drop in the ocean. This is not the way it can be stopped and it is ignorant for that attorney to say that it can be. The internet is too vast. It sucks but that is the way it is now. one can’t help it???

Raghubir

Raghubir — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

You may be right Anthny but an honest effort can be made in this direction.

Nathaniel

Nathaniel — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Action speaks more than the words do. yes it can be done, here not one, but all need the honesty and will to do that. If they have power to stop it, they should use it. any such endeavor is a welcome step coz this is the one area of internet that I feel should be banned. nevertheless, words cannot express what I feel about this subject, but i don’t see an end to my disgust or an effective ban either.

Joel

Joel — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

this is must and will be a violent step to save the innocent children. Yes shut this filth down, no matter what you do its getting that bad now with all the sites that pop up even when you don’t want them, do something about it please. Our children and grandchildren are at risk.

Ted

Ted — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

i have a suggestion how this could be done.It would be easy for ISPs to search for offensive website URLs and ban their customers from accessing them. As simple as that. I don’t know why this hasn’t already been done.

Bryce

Bryce — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@Ted

Easier said than done. though i argue in favor of such move. still i know that i ISPs don’t have the power to stop what is posted on the internet. it is difficult to locate them. Once found it is easy to shut them down, but first they must be found. and here the main problem is, lot of them, rather almost all, are disguised, and are discovered via word of mouth. By then they are already established, and the creators have moved on. It has to be a continual surveillance, and that is a hard nut to crack.

Avadhut

Avadhut — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

with the rising internet uses, the problem is getting wider and hard to stem. the other side of the coin is one can ban things but nothing can be done about human psyche. and as far as i understand, banning things never works, be it drink, drugs or porn. Banning things creates a desire to see or experience them. It simply goes underground and generates more cash for the providers. That’s human nature.

Shlomi

Shlomi — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

the whole thing is about the child porn. I call it the gravest abuse to humanity. but i think what everybody is discussing here is illegal child porn. how ahout the legal child porn’. is someone taking measures to ban that or will it remain in legal form as a mockery of innocence.

Glenn

Glenn — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

oh thanks a lot. the idiots are out of the slumber to find that it goes on under their nose. the F*** What rock have they been under for more than a decade? I think it is more a matter of, now that there is pressure they have decided to act like they care, if they had worked earlier this would have not been a term we might be knowing. but its too late even to cry over the spilt milk.

Lalit

Lalit — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

The sex-related crimes are not new but crimes exist before the internet came into being? If ppl here mean that internet is the culprit to drive the crimes?? I condemn this pusillanimity and say internet does not have the power to turn ordinary people into sex offenders and murderers.Some common sense please. Disturbed Individuals do disturbed things and always will. Banning pornography will serve no purpose whatsoever.

HemRaj Singh

HemRaj Singh — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

The Internet cannot be purged of child pornography. However, if proper measures are taken, it can certainly be checked to a large extent. The Internet, after all, caters to the good and perverse tastes of us human beings and since the number of perverted people across the world is substantial, we’ll need to check child pornography and once we have done that part, all that we can do it tolerate.

Technology comes with certain disadvantages. With the Internet, this is one of the many disadvantages. But even the many disadvantages are actually negligible compared to the resourcefulness of the World Wide Web and its uniting influence.

Ted

Ted — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@Bryce

yes perhaps you are right while saying that “it’s easy....” but still you can make efforts at least, but genuine, to fight with the net curse. other things that you can do as a user is you have to be registered with an ISP, who links to the web through other ISP’s etc. All ISP’s in the US could be set up to block access to certain appalling sites, thus making it unlikely that any could slip through.

Secondly, I assume that this material has to be paid for. Credit card companies and banks should just refuse to process payments to the businesses operating these sites; and indeed should not offer them ANY banking facilities. Could Ethical Banking have a part to play? But again i maintain that it needs genuine efforts from all.

Tim

Tim — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

not exactly. it is not possible. and do u think a ban will work?? i think not, becoz the creators of the ‘nasty’ sites are not a kinda people who respect the law anyway. They are organized criminals and blows the rules and curbs to winds. they are very, very difficult to find and stop and mostly not in this country. Besides - whatever method implemented to ban this would be circumvented in short order.. just ask anyone who gets flooded with Spam despite the newest filters.

Parul G

Parul G — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yes. we can do that. But it would need real collective efforts and every body has to do its bit to curb this menace, which is robbing children of thier innocance and making them objects of desire.

Deepa

Deepa — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@ Avadhut

It does help to ban certain vices for a particular age group. I agree that banning things will boost the curiosity levels but then that doesn’t mean that we let kids have an open access to every thing that’s not meant for them at that age. Though its not that easy and simple, I believe that each step taken will be beneficial in some way at least. Something is better then doing nothing!

Danny

Danny — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

It boils down to one question - can anyone control the Internet? The plain and simple answer is NO. Most of the underground and illegal porn and/or snuff stuff is hosted on servers that have no front end listing in major search engines. Their addresses are shared in sleazy chat rooms and forums, again who are not well listed. It is only when we locate the hosts we can do something. It is something like we know a crime has taken place and we can stop it only if we can pin point the criminals and take them to task.

Sofie

Sofie — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

It is not only extremely difficult but next to impossible to get the internet rid of child porn. What can we possibly do? Suppose if we catch hold of the child porn vendors, buyers and sharers and confiscated all the content, they would again be available the next day. We must realise that we cannot arrest all pedophiles on the net at once and we must also realise that there are thousands of digital copies of every child pornographic material.

Ranita

Ranita — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yes, we can! Atlast we should start trying. I have a few kids at home, cousins you know and this thing seems to be a real nuisance at their concentration levels driving it in the wrong direction. the rampant existence of porn on internet is one of it’s most grave disadvantages and i think it’s high time the stir should commence or else grave consequences are surely awaiting!

Taylor Flatt

Taylor Flatt — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Well the question here is can we get RID of child pornography. There is always going to be pornography on the internet no doubt about it. But child pornography needs to stop but how are we going to stop it when you have people living in places that the US won’t be allowed to touch? All you’d be doing is just pointing out all the places these people can be. Sure you may get a few but in the end it won’t matter, there is still going to be child porn on the internet.

Even to stop it it would require billions of dollars and the funding would have to continue throughout many years and years and you would still have some ”cells” placing this kind of stuff on the internet. I agree it has to stop but I don’t it is able to be completely stopped.

Agust

Agust — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Most of child porn stuff is not sold but shared between pedophiles from all over the world including Europe, America and Asia. The favorite way of them to do is through p2p networks like bittorrent etc and there are hundreds of thousands of them. For example download eMule and check our for such stuff and you would find entire servers, thousands of them dedicated to serve child porn. It is not possible for cyber crime detectors to trace who is downloading what from those networks. If an underground server is located and shut a mirror will be activated immediately.

Jonas

Jonas — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

unfortunately the answer is ‘no’. this is one of the ill side effects of the internet we have to live with. search for child porn in google, aol, yahoo and you won’t get a single link that will redirect you to a download page of child porn. but they exist in millions and every day tens of thousands of gigabyte worth of illegal child porn data is downloaded. arrests are made, but it is not even the tip of an iceberg. much bigger. much sinister. and it is growing.

Vero

Vero — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yes we can control it. The way we can do it is first realizing that it is a real problem and cooperate with agencies of other countries to stop it. Most of the servers that host child porn are located in countries where there are virtually no cyber laws and where the governments are meek and corrupt. When we cannot cooperate with each other controlling terrorism and terrorists we must not expect cooperation on this to happen soon between all countries. But there is a way and it is only what I mentioned.

Taylor Flatt

Taylor Flatt — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Well sure that sounds simple. But if you add up all those sites it would go into the thousands. You’ve also got home servers and a lot of countries aren’t going to want the US messing with their affairs. Frankly it is possible but I doubt it will happen. It would require EVERYONE to cooperate and that will never happen.

Puneet

Puneet — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Child pornography cannot be controlled if we take and move with all the countries together. If you say something like - Can India get its Internet rid of child pornography? - the answer would be an emphatic ‘YES’. The government can have its own monitoring group and make it mandatory for all ISPs to keep a check on the kind of data being transfered through its network with special focus on what one member said here as p2p networks. Also, it must be made a criminal offence for anyone keeping and sharing such stuff from within the country. This way a lot of the problems can be tackled.

Rama

Rama — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

It is a child’s play to get child porn on the net despite strict laws against keeping and trying to access such material. The underground industry is growing and perhaps outgrowing the conventional legal porn industry on the web. The more we do, the less we feel is being done because of the sheer pace at which it is growing.

Brian

Brian — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Can we get our society rid of murderers?

Can we get our society rid of rapists?

Can we get our society rid of robbers?

Can we get our society rid of arsonists?

Can we get our society rid of burglars?

If the answer to the above question is a BIG NO then the answer to “Can we get our society rid of pedophiles?” is a BIG NO as well. As long as there are pedophiles in the society, there would be child sex abuse and child porn images and videos shared. The internet is only a convenient medium because of the anonymity it provides the users. Before the internet such material were traded through federal posts and private couriers.

Taylor Flatt

Taylor Flatt — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Well the question IS if we can get rid of this. Then the answer is no. But we can still try to get rid of the problem. Trying is better than nothing. Brian is right, we can’t get rid of something as big as this or murders. I mean it’s already taken root and people will just have to see the moral side of it and know that it is wrong and not do it.

Aneez

Aneez — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yes, very soon we will get rid of this. Maybe a couple of months, say, by the end of August, or maybe by the end of this year, but not later than that.

Don’t believe me? Well, let 2009 come.. and try surfing the net for some of this stuff. You won’t find a single site containing any stuff related to child pornography.

Don’t ask me to furnish any support for my claims, just wait patiently... n pray that my intuition comes true!

Taylor Flatt

Taylor Flatt — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Oh really. Well I find that hard to believe but a lot of what you say does come true....hmmm..I wonder how they would do this if you are correct....I wish there was a neutral box haha

Reshmi

Reshmi — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Easier said than done!Child pornography is silently encroaching even the apparently child friendly gaming sites,all the images and photography sites have atleast few sections dedicated to nudity and soft porn which any child can surf and have a dekko! @ Aneez, I hope this time you don’t want to start a controversy yet again! I think its wishful thinking on your part...but once for all I would love to agree with you and fervently pray that whatever you have stated becomes true in the near future!

Aneez

Aneez — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks Reshmi for your kind support shown towards my noble cause. And don’t worry, I never go off-the-route when serious issues are concerned. Child pornography is a subject totally different from the usual cats and dogs stuff we find in the debates, and no sane person would try to stir a controversy out of it.

Further, I hope more people to follow you and join the brigade to strengthen my prays. Together we can make it happen!

Bobette

Bobette — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

I am not sure if we can totally rid our society of all the unpleasantries but I do know that we should never give up on trying. As long as there is an effort to put an end to it then to some extent we have succeeded

Taylor Flatt

Taylor Flatt — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yeah but if you relate this to any other circumstance that wouldn’t be good enough.

You can’t just try at some things and this is one of them. In one of my posts here I said at least we can try but to be honest, the only way of helping if to eradicate it.

Succeeding is only catching ever sick person out there that does this stuff. It is wrong and it needs stopped. But I find it hard to believe it will be.

That is unless Aneez is right and there is going to be a total block of it. I all for trying but trying isn’t going to get the job done.

Sanwali

Sanwali — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

This cannot be stopped till the time the sex maniacs exist in the world. We all very well know that these kinds of people are present in our society and they will never stop this horrible act. It gives them pleasure after all?? Sick!

Reshmi

Reshmi — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@ Aneez, i am there with you! And as you have stated...all of us together can make it happen! Would love to know your views on my post

”Behind closed doors”!

Aneez

Aneez — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks Reshmi, and thanks for that post too. My views are ready for your viewing. :)

Bobette

Bobette — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@Taylor, You are correct in saying that effort alone is not enough but effort is where we all have to start when it comes to accomplishing anything. I believe that it will end it to some extent; anything is better than just letting it happen. If the first attempt isnt enough or doesnt work at all then we come up with something else and we keep going; all which is a part of ”TRYING”.

Reshmi

Reshmi — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 +0000

@ Aneez, thanx for your valuable comments on my article! Atleast we are not loggerheads at everything...glad to know that we think alike on some issues!:)